the pariah, the parrot, the delusion

@AS: So well, sorry, that was just an impression. :P
My idea about this album? I have to say I've noticed some kind of sound and emotional standardization in the last two albums by dredg. I began listening to them with Catch Without Arms, and then I experienced the first two albums: I felt a different passion in their early songs, probably my feelings were the same of dida. I have waited for PPP for so long, and then, listening to it, I found all the different kind of sounds and emotion from the three previous albums merged in a cauldron of new, cool songs. The power of the Will of Purification from Leitmotif, the Sleep Paralysis from El Cielo and the direct analysis of our situation in this world all together. That was amazing. I have to thank dredg for the synthesis of their experiences poured in a sole CD.

Talking about Quotes on a musical basis I have to say that the verse is on of the best verses of the album, maybe even the best imo. The chorus, well i like it to just not the transition to it. I mean after so many listens now, I'm fine with it, it's not great musically (by the way on the track by track on the addition DVD of the limited version, I think Gavin says that it was on of the songs which almost didn't make it on the album) but it's alright. At first i was a tad like dida to be honest. But it worked for me after a while.

Lyrically I don't really care if it's about drugs or not (personally I have never used any) as long as they're not saying that people should use them and that they're good, like proclaiming it. Which is obviously not the case with Quotes.

This FANTASTIC album was clearly wasted on the ears of people like Dida, close-minded people without that thirst for knowledge and experience and that sense of wonder that makes life worth living. Drugs or no drugs, seriously LSD in no way compares to Marijuana, and if you haven't tried Marijuana then you really can't compare the two. If drugs aren't your bag, there is nothing wrong with that, it is a choice just like everything else. But this album is amazing with or without them, and if Blink 182 had the amount talent equal to what any one of the guys in dredg have in their pinky toes, they might still be relevant. But since their music was uninventive and totally useless commercial BS they are gone and truly don't even deserve to be mentioned within the same breath or story or webpage as dredg. Id say that it is just me, but it seems to me from reading the previous posts that pretty much every other person on this site got the album and the message that Gavin and the guys were trying to bestow upon us. And as he so excellently sings "There is only so much we can do, only so much can be shown to you
The rest is your choice. It's your choice. It's your choice,
So keep moving onward (Run through that open door)"

BrandoTheMando wrote:
Quotes and Saviour are not a favorite of mine either . I actually really like quotes now. But I am sure this album will grow on you. I mean your not going to agree with everything a band talks about. And with dredg I am sure its just this one song thats bugging you. Is comon dredg knowledge that they smoke weed. At least it is that Drew does (As is apparent when he lights up on stage). I am sure they arent talking about crack or Heroin.

I read in an interview that song is about a person who does drugs to try and expand their mind/view of the world while trying to not have drugs take over their life and become an addict. If I find the interview I will post it later

FaFbFeverdog wrote:

BrandoTheMando wrote:
Quotes and Saviour are not a favorite of mine either . I actually really like quotes now. But I am sure this album will grow on you. I mean your not going to agree with everything a band talks about. And with dredg I am sure its just this one song thats bugging you. Is comon dredg knowledge that they smoke weed. At least it is that Drew does (As is apparent when he lights up on stage). I am sure they arent talking about crack or Heroin.

I read in an interview that song is about a person who does drugs to try and expand their mind/view of the world while trying to not have drugs take over their life and become an addict. If I find the interview I will post it later

You guys just don't get it. I don't want to get too in deep or be exact about what this song is about or what this entire album seems to be heavily inspired by but I will say that this song is NOT about the type of drugs that will destroy your body or cause addiction. There are still some of us out there that believe in utilizing the tools that we've been blessed with in this life to further understand, expand and interpret our consciousness. I know that this song is about a specific and very rare substance that most people in this life will never be able to experience for themselves. This is also why a lot of people are only taking these lyrics for face-value. Those of us who have shared in those experiences draw the connection very quickly. I'm not trying to be a pretentious prick or anything- you don't have to flame me for this post. I just wanted to put my two cents in to try and clear this up a bit. They don't advocate the use of drugs that get you high - they're advocating a higher level of consciousness.

It certainly works for me. Just can't stop listening to it!

Hello all, first time poster, long time fan. Dredg has been one of my favorite bands over the past decade, and I still can't get enough. While I do enjoy the album, I personally don't like it as much ones past. It lacked that distinctive rock from Leitmotif and El Cielo. I will say that it picked up a different sound, but not as good as their first couple albums. But, I could really see this transitioning. Orph EP rocked so hard, as did Leitmotif, then the next 2 were a little more mellow, but still were great.

I know it's a long time in the future, but I hope their next album sounds more like Orph EP, Leitmotif, and El Cielo.

I'm pumped for them to come to Houston. This will be my 4th time to see them, and I'm still as pumped as ever!

if you don't like this album.. then i am going to go as far to say you probably don't really understand how to listento music... there i said it... i'm just saying

kickinfatbeats wrote:

FaFbFeverdog wrote:

BrandoTheMando wrote:
Quotes and Saviour are not a favorite of mine either . I actually really like quotes now. But I am sure this album will grow on you. I mean your not going to agree with everything a band talks about. And with dredg I am sure its just this one song thats bugging you. Is comon dredg knowledge that they smoke weed. At least it is that Drew does (As is apparent when he lights up on stage). I am sure they arent talking about crack or Heroin.

I read in an interview that song is about a person who does drugs to try and expand their mind/view of the world while trying to not have drugs take over their life and become an addict. If I find the interview I will post it later

You guys just don't get it. I don't want to get too in deep or be exact about what this song is about or what this entire album seems to be heavily inspired by but I will say that this song is NOT about the type of drugs that will destroy your body or cause addiction. There are still some of us out there that believe in utilizing the tools that we've been blessed with in this life to further understand, expand and interpret our consciousness. I know that this song is about a specific and very rare substance that most people in this life will never be able to experience for themselves. This is also why a lot of people are only taking these lyrics for face-value. Those of us who have shared in those experiences draw the connection very quickly. I'm not trying to be a pretentious prick or anything- you don't have to flame me for this post. I just wanted to put my two cents in to try and clear this up a bit. They don't advocate the use of drugs that get you high - they're advocating a higher level of consciousness.

ayahuasca?

amnt wrote:
btw FaF, you sound like

FaFbFeverdog wrote:
a pretentious prick or anything

just sayin. why do you believe you have the correct interpretation of the song? you seem to be privy to some mysterious super-drug and assume it's what dredg are talking about. i'm assuming you're assuming, because it doesn't sound like you had a heart-to-heart convo with gavin about quotes.

back on-topic, dida, it sounds like you're ruling off the whole album because of quotes. i see that you've had personal issues with drug use and that the supposed pro-drug tone of quotes is something you can't get behind. ok, you can not like that song, so you skip it. but you stated that the album is full of 'cheap dance music'. i would say such a thing for maybe, the ting tings, but if you listened closely to Mourning This Morning and Gathering Pebbles you might catch the detail and depth that make them more than 'cheap'. But it's fine if you dislike the new stuff, i just don't think it's fair to compare dredg to Blink 182 because none of their songs sound anything alike, regardless of your opinion of the latter band. and the comparison of Quotes to MCR's Helena is fine because both slow down and get a bit grandiose during the chorus. but the buck stops past the similarity of the lines 'our sobriety will diminish' and 'what's the worst that i could say' - they sound a little similar. a lot of music branching different genres sound similar (i.e. the verses of Dylan's 'Subterranean Homesick Blues' sound like U2's 'Get on Your Boots').

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